>> tom, i think the obama administration has been rightfully supporting israel because israel has a right to defend itself, any country would. but i think the united states is going to want to work with egypt, with turkey and qatar to try to convince the leadership to stop this very provocative and hardy shelling of rocketing the cities. when hamas is targeting both tel aviv and israel, this is a new phase of war between a long-running war between them. israel is going to react to that. i think you'll see a very intense demonstration between them to cease and desist. >> gaza is not a big area. at some point they have to run out of pockets to some degree, don't they? >> yeah, but that's a big risk. so the big driver of the israeli operation right now is the long-range rockets that were allegedly supplied by iran and which hamas has been using to target major urban centers in israel like tel aviv, like jerusalem. tel aviv has been the red line for israel, and as long as hamas has been in possession of these rockets and can maintain that threat against israeli population centers, israel can'